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| yindee |
Skrevet d. 10-04-2010 17:07
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dkth skrev:
yindee er det med at vinde i Thailand på svindel og bedrag ikke helt normalt?
Hvordan skal Thailand nogensinde komme ud af dette morads når næsten alle godkender korruption, jeg har meget svært ved at se noget politisk holdbar der kan ligne demokrati.
jo det har været meget normalt og er det nok stadigvæk penge styrer thailand
thaierne er efter min ringe mening ikke klar til det vi kalder demokrati
nu er det jo heller ikke demokrati der kæmpes for i Bangkok lige nu selv om de påstå s fra flere sider
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Skrevet d. 11-04-2010 11:17
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når man læser denne artikel får man nemt den opfattelse at der er borgerkrig i thailand 
google oversat se her http://translate....&tl=da
Ronin warriors' fire M79 grenades at troops: Khattiya
Maj-Gen Khattiya Sawasdipol said Sunday that the so-called 'Ronin' warriors or underground warriors helped red-shirt protesters battle troops on Saturday.
He admitted that the "unknown force" or "Ronin warriors" fired M79 grenades at troops and one M79 grenade landed at the tent of the commander of the operation, causing the troops to have no commander.
"This caused the troops to have no commander and caused them to lose the battle," Khattiya said.
"The Army commander thought the red shirts were easy to be crushed but there are not," Khattiya said.
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Skrevet d. 11-04-2010 11:29
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dkth skrev:
Hvis Thaksin kunne stille op til et frit valg for de røde ( Thai Rak Thai ) tror jeg
faktisk han ville slå de gule ( PAD ).
Stemmekøb er jo en vigtig del af den thailandske valgkultur.
Husker ikke, har måske aldrig vidst, hvor mange biler der er blevet stoppet i udkanten af Bangkok på vej op til Isarn fyldt med 50 bath og 100 bath sedler. Og hvis der er stoppet 20 biler med bestikkelsepenge, er der vel smuttet flere hundre biler gennem kontrollen.
Thaiksin, hans sygeforsikring, og hans vælgeres taknemlighed er jo noget pudsigt noget. Vælgerne kan som i mange andre lande slet ikke gennemskue det som sker.
Tag det gummiplantage projekt, der kørte for nogle år siden. Måske kører det endnu. (Der kan nemt være folk som ved mere om det her på TDK som ved mere om det end jeg) Thaksin har udvalgt ganske få af sine kammerater til at levere gummitræer til bønderne, som oftest var Thaiksins vælgere. Han tjente formodentlig styrtende på de gummuitræer. det samme med hans familie, salgets af hans værdier via børnene, skattefrit. Folk stemmer stadig på ham eller hans stråmænd, p gr a sygeforsikringen og eller p gr a stemmekøb.
Tropiske hilsner
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Skrevet d. 11-04-2010 12:19
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Politik og relegion er det samme de lover og lover men der er ikke noget af det der holder,plattenslage findes der overalt.Når ikke engang kan stole på sig selv hvordan skal man så stole andre..
Hvis jeg går en tur ned på hjørnet for at få mig en enkel  og kommer hjem efter 20 og har klaret hele verdens problemer plus Thailands så har jeg det godt med mig selv men der er jo ikke nogen der siger at jeg har ret....
Ka i ha en go dag i varmen
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| yindee |
Skrevet d. 12-04-2010 03:37
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her er lidt set med militæret og politiet øjne
Colonel says situation is 'a civil war'
SPECIAL REPORT: Soldiers tired, stressed - and unarmed - were left at the mercy of thousands of red shirt protesters,
Bad timing, underestimating the situation and intense pressure all contributed to the failure of the security forces operation to disperse the red shirt demonstrators from Phan Fa Bridge on Saturday, army sources say.
"This is a civil war," said an infantry colonel who took part in the operation.
"The red shirts have firearms. They fired at soldiers. Soldiers were unarmed. They only have anti-riot gear.
"How could they fight with those people? Many were killed and many were injured. We've never seen such a scene. Thais killed soldiers. Who did they think we are? They kept shooting at us."
The colonel said security forces had been ordered to move into the Phan Fa area to disperse demonstrators in the early hours of Saturday. But the operation commander did not issue an order as to when the operation would begin.
Coincidentally, a group of red shirt demonstrators tried to burst into the headquarters of the 1st Army. The commander then ordered security forces to move into the Phan Fa area.
A sergeant said: "The forces should have gradually reclaimed the street space from one point to another. But our commander said we must seize Phan Fa Bridge by that night [Saturday night]. So we had to quickly move in.
"Protesters were emotional. Soldiers were also emotional. Some subordinates were killed. Some supervisors were injured. We're angry.
"Protesters were armed. There was an armed militant force. But soldiers did not have a gun. We fired tear gas and rubber bullets, but the protesters were not afraid."
The sergeant said soldiers who had live bullets fired their guns to protect themselves only when they thought the situation was life-threatening.
Another colonel in the Saturday operation said security forces should have waited until the protesters were more exhausted.
"We shouldn't hurry," the colonel said. "Don't set a timeframe to finish the operation before Songkran. We should have based our decision on the situation. But our supervisors feared that if the operation dragged on, more protesters would join the demonstration."
Normally, security forces would wait for the most appropriate time because the operation risked the loss of lives, the colonel said.
He said security forces should have waited until the protesters were exhausted or less alert. Dawn was an appropriate time to launch the operation, he said.
However, security forces on Saturday began their operation in the afternoon with an aim to reclaim the demonstration area.
"It was not easy, but high-ranking supervisors in the armed forces were emotional," the colonel said. "They wanted the operation to finish in one day."
Meanwhile, a lieutenant colonel said security forces were in a rush to finish their operation on Saturday because of mounting pressure.
"We soldiers were embarrassed by the clash at Thaicom [ground satellite station] earlier," the lieutenant colonel said.
"The public also demanded that the soldiers speed up the dispersal.
"We were criticised and pressured. We couldn't be slow."
Another source said army chief Anupong Paojinda had assigned his deputy, Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha, to be in charge of planning and commanding the operation.
Gen Prayuth told reporters on Saturday night that security forces had to retake the rally site from the UDD by Saturday and he would not allow demonstrators to continue breaking the law.
The source said Gen Prayuth had planned to ask the government to invoke martial law to facilitate the security forces' operation. But he changed his mind upon learning that Maj Gen Walit Rojanapakdi, commander of the 2nd Infantry Division (Royal Guards), was seriously injured and several soldiers, including Col Romklao Thuwatham, were killed during the clash.
Gen Anupong and Gen Prayuth agreed to halt the operation as ordered by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.
The prime minister ordered the operation to cease upon receiving reports of the high number of casualties.
Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban, the director of the Centre for Public Administration in Emergency Situations, said he was very sorry that soldiers were killed and injured because he had issued the order that they carry only shields, batons and tear gas canisters.
"They were unarmed, so some of them were killed," he said.
Mr Suthep said he had not expected the red shirts to have an armed militant force among them.
Those militants did not care whether soldiers or protesters or innocent people were harmed by their weapons, he said.
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| yindee |
Skrevet d. 12-04-2010 10:32
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det er vel naturlig når der er ballade i et land mon bahten også får en nedtur
Thailands aktier rasler ned
Aktieindekset på børsen i den thailandske hovedstad, Bangkok, ligger til et betydeligt fald efter weekendens uroligheder i byen.
Over middag var faldet på 5,2 procent.
- Politiske spændinger får indekset til at falde, for der er ingen udsigt til, at de slutter, siger en analytiker.
Demonstranterne kræver, at premierminister Abhisit Vejjajiva går af, forlader landet og udskriver nyvalg.
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Skrevet d. 12-04-2010 11:01
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Den er startet master, så lad os da håbe dette her fortsætter, for så får vi da noget for pengene pludselig. Dårlig joke, men sådan er verden nu engang skruet sammen.
Jeg tror dette her ender helt galt...
Men os der er herude på landet ser det jo kun på TV, men det er da også galt nok.
Songran festlighederne bliver ikke aflyst på grund af bangkok, ja sådan er det altså bare. |
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Skrevet d. 16-04-2010 05:36
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så er kampen i gang igen politiet stormer et hotel hvor der efter sigende skulle være flere terrorister
her er lidt fra The Nation http://www.nation...27244.html
Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban announced on TVs Friday that a unit of special force has been deployed to besiege SC Park Hotel to round up alleged terrorists and some red-shirt leaders.
He said the arrested red-shirt leaders and alleged terrorists would be taken to the 11th Infantry Regiment for questioning.
The Nation
se også her http://www.bangko...s-at-hotel |
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Skrevet d. 16-04-2010 05:55
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Arisaman, Phayup, Suporn rounded up at SC Park
Several media organisations reported on their SMS services that at least three red-shirt leaders have been rounded at the SC Park Hotel.
The SMS news stated that Arisaman Pongruangrong, Phayup Panket and Suporn Atthawong have been arrested at the hotel.
They were reportedly taken to the 11th Infantry Regiment.
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Skrevet d. 16-04-2010 08:34
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Red leaders escape arrest
All of the red-shirt leaders who were at the SC Park hotel raided security forces managed to escape Friday, another leader Natthawut Saikuar said.
The statement was later confirmed by government spokesman Panithan Wattanayakorn.
Mr Panithan told reporters that the operation to arrest red-shirt leaders was "unsuccessful."
According to television reports, five red-shirt leaders were staying at the hotel. They included Arisman Pongruengrong and Suporn Attawong.
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| yindee |
Skrevet d. 16-04-2010 16:55
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det måtte jo komme den udøvende magt er lagt ud til militæret om det er godt eller skidt må tiden vise
Anupong appointed new emergency operations command chief
rime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva announced on TV Friday night that Army Commander-in-Chief Gen Anupong Paochinda has been appointed the new commander of the Emergency Operations Command.
Abhisit said Anupong has replaced Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban for the job.
The Nation
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| yindee |
Skrevet d. 18-04-2010 17:36
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PAD har meddelt, at såfremt myndighederne ikke inden 7 dage har fjernet rødskjorterne vil PAD gøre det og går de gule først på gaden ja så er helvede løs
kilde http://www.bangko...ovt-7-days
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| yindee |
Skrevet d. 19-04-2010 02:52
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bliver det i dag har lige set på tv nye tropper ankommer til byen og de er bevæbnet med maskinepistoler
Troops deployed to Silom
Five companies have been deployed to be stationed in front of the Bangkok Bank head office.
Some of the troops are stationed in Lumpini Park and some on the Saladaeng station of the BTS train.
Meanwhile, a group of protesters took position near King Rama VI in front of the Lumpini Park.
The Nation http://www.nation...27390.html
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Skrevet d. 19-04-2010 04:10
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Ja det går noget anderledes end jeg havde forventet.
Jeg frygter det værste for Thailand men håber det bedste. |
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| yindee |
Skrevet d. 20-04-2010 05:13
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rolig lige nu i byen flere hoteller lukker i dag
en meddelelse fra de røde
Red Shirts to Announce Plans at 10 A.M.
Authorities and locals alike are now awaiting an announcement from the red shirt leaders at 10 A.M. today as to what their plans are for today's large scale rally are. Soldiers continue to secure the Silom area in anticipation that red shirt protesters might try to seize Bangkok's main financial district. Hotels around the rally site around Ratchaprasong intersection continue to close their doors today. In addition to the Hyatt Erawan Hotel and the Four Seasons, which remain closed, the Intercontinental Hotel, the Centara Grand Hotel, and the Renaissance Hotel also close their doors today due to security concerns.
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Skrevet d. 20-04-2010 08:43
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Thailands militær klar med våben
De rødklædte demonstranter i Thailands hovedstad, Bangkok, risikerer i de kommende dage at blive konfronteret med soldater, der ikke er blege for at tage våben i brug.
Militærets ledelse siger, at man vil "stramme håndteringen" af demonstrationerne, som har præget landet den seneste måned.
"Vi kan ikke længere bruge det bløde til at håndtere hårde skridt. Vi er nødt til at holde en afstand mellem soldater og demonstranter," siger en talsmand fra militæret.
"Hvis de forsøger at bryde vores linje, vil vi begynde med at bruge tåregas, og hvis demonstranterne bryder igennem den linje, er vi nødt til at bruge våben for at håndtere dem," lyder meldingen.
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Skrevet d. 21-04-2010 01:34
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kampen er i gang mit gæt to dage og militæret rykker ind
Fights break up between red, multicoloured demonstrators
Small fights between red-shirted demonstrators and Bangkok residents took place late last night at Silom Road after hours of verbal abuses exchanged between the two groups.
A male red shirt ran across the street to provoke the fight before he was surrounded beaten up by the so-called "multicoloured" demonstrators before policemen and soldiers moved in to stop the attack and let the man return to his group.
Two taxis decorated with red flags later travelled past the area and were stopped by the multicoloured group. Both vehicles were damaged before managing to escape. No serious injuries were reported in all three incidents.
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Skrevet d. 21-04-2010 04:05
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*Ja det er sgutte så spændende
at der nu risikerer meget mere ballade.
Den taximeter man jeg kørte med igår,
sagde at han også vil hjælpe de røde i kampen.
Han spurgte også mig om min mening,
Men jeg sagde at jeg ikke havde nogen mening
da jeg er farang.
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Skrevet d. 21-04-2010 04:49
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Efterhånden tror jeg mange af de røde/gule og alle de andre farver, kun bruger tiden på at vente til kongens død.
Så skal vi nok høre fra dem alle, der vil have magten, og så starter den virkelige kamp, som lige nu nok kun er lidt uro på overfladen.
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Skrevet d. 21-04-2010 11:14
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Thailands regering vil forhandle
se her http://nyhederne....rss]Mere..
og her http://ekstrablad...333408.ece
det er nok skuespil og tom snak fra begge sider |
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